May 21, 2008, 07:31 PM // 19:31
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Los Angeles
Guild: none
Profession: E/Mo
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caster weapons not up too par with other professions
I've noticed lately that GW has taken to making all the caster weapons the same skin and just changing the requirments. I think this quite a cheat in the beginning everyone had different weapons and off hands. Warriors get axes, swords and hammers while monk, eles and everyone that casts all have the same ones. Now I know that this would be a lot of work but that is what you led us to believe in the first campaign when they were unique to every profession. Can you imagine a warrior using a generic warrior weapon with sword requirements, but you ask the casters to do it without hesitating. I would like to see a reversal of this practice and new caster weapons implimented. It's very dismaying to get to the end chest and get a weapon that is just the same as all the others. how do the rest of you feel about this practice.
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May 21, 2008, 07:54 PM // 19:54
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: You should know
Profession: W/
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wait....what where you trying to say?
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May 21, 2008, 07:57 PM // 19:57
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über těk-nĭsh'ən
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Canada
Profession: R/
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there is one profession that uses a sword. there are five professions that uses a wand. so you want anet to implement unique wands for ALL five professions? that's just impossible.
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May 21, 2008, 07:58 PM // 19:58
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Pennsylvania
Guild: Leaked Aggression [grr]
Profession: D/W
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Umm.. not sure what you're trying to get across here... are you saying it's wrong that "casters" use axes, swords, spears etc... (not particularly "matched" to their class) and that warriors etc. mostly use weapons for their specified profession?
If that's the case - I think it's because caster's "normally" don't rely too much on the damage that their actual weapon does, which basically nullifies the requirement issue, and should instead focus on the spells or whatever that they cast.
If that's not what your saying.... then I have no idea how to answer.
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May 21, 2008, 07:59 PM // 19:59
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#5
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über těk-nĭsh'ən
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Canada
Profession: R/
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no, he wants each caster profession to have their own set of wand/focii/staff skin, so that a mesmer wand will always look different than an ele wand.
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May 21, 2008, 08:06 PM // 20:06
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: In ur base...
Guild: The one true [Hope]
Profession: E/
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There are plenty of profession-specific wands and focii (not so much for staffs), but I think the OP was talking mostly about end-game chests. Like how "Wayward Wand" looks the same for all professions (and wasn't even a new skin).
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May 21, 2008, 08:17 PM // 20:17
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Sorrow's Furnace Hot Tub
Guild: RoS
Profession: Mo/Me
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First, as Parson said above, there are profession-specific weapons.
Second, my Monk often uses a sword and shield.
Third, my warrior often uses a staff or focus.
So, not sure what you're asking for that isn't already out there....
Though I guess I could agree that it would be nice if GWEN offered more profession specific chest drops.
Last edited by w00t!; May 21, 2008 at 08:21 PM // 20:21..
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May 21, 2008, 08:40 PM // 20:40
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are we there yet?
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: in a land far far away
Guild: guild? I am supposed to have a guild?
Profession: Rt/
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raven staves, bo staves.....I think that the OP would like to see a bit more variation on things such as those...
however; there are LOTS of wands that are pretty much specific to the caster---I cant get a Voltaic wand for my necro, nor can I get an accursed one for my ele---etc...
OP you just need to look a bit further than bad drops!
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May 21, 2008, 08:44 PM // 20:44
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Dec 2007
Guild: Nite
Profession: A/D
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You suck then if you're going to sacrifice 10/12 energy for better looks and +6 armor >.> And along with your noob war using wand/offhand or staff, I'd hate to ever PvP/PvE with you.
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May 21, 2008, 08:49 PM // 20:49
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Hall Hero
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: California Canada/BC
Guild: STG Administrator
Profession: Mo/
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I don't mind the skins it is the stats that I have problem with that some end game greens aren't as good as a collectors version.
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May 21, 2008, 08:49 PM // 20:49
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#11
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Jungle Guide
Join Date: Feb 2007
Guild: [SNOW] of [YUM]
Profession: E/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tehshadowninjar
You suck then if you're going to sacrifice 10/12 energy for better looks and +6 armor >.> And along with your noob war using wand/offhand or staff, I'd hate to ever PvP/PvE with you.
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More energy isn't better energy management.
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May 21, 2008, 08:52 PM // 20:52
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#12
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: WHERE DO YOU THINK
Profession: W/
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Casters can use sword/axes/shields ect, wars cannot run around with staffs and foci (unless maybe ursan) they have more choices.
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Originally Posted by tehshadowninjar
You suck then if you're going to sacrifice 10/12 energy for better looks and +6 armor >.> And along with your noob war using wand/offhand or staff, I'd hate to ever PvP/PvE with you.
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Most caster (mostly eles) have more than enough energy to start with, the +8 (not six) armor is much better, assuming you don't suck enough to not manage energy well. Plus most caster sword/shields have +5 energy commonly and +20% enchant (something a wand/foci can't have) and your only losing like 5/7 energy. Thats not much. Beside you cannot cast spells if your dead. Only reason to have wand/foci is for 40/40 to switch to when cast bigger skills.
Last edited by Kerwyn Nasilan; May 21, 2008 at 08:58 PM // 20:58..
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May 21, 2008, 08:53 PM // 20:53
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#13
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Jungle Guide
Join Date: May 2005
Location: USA
Guild: Karr's Castle
Profession: W/E
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Quote:
Originally Posted by moriz
there is one profession that uses a sword. there are five professions that uses a wand. so you want anet to implement unique wands for ALL five professions? that's just impossible.
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QFT
You are asking for too much. There is no way for ANET to justify the amount of time it would take for the return.
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May 21, 2008, 08:57 PM // 20:57
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#14
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Academy Page
Join Date: Feb 2007
Profession: Rt/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tehshadowninjar
You suck then if you're going to sacrifice 10/12 energy for better looks and +6 armor >.> And along with your noob war using wand/offhand or staff, I'd hate to ever PvP/PvE with you.
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Actually, it's pretty common for a Monk to use a melee weapon with a shield or off-hand. It's for the extra health. I'll gladly sacrifice 10/12 energy for +60 health. More health = your a lower priority target (because AI always targets lowest AL and health first) = less deaths = you can spend more time protecting your party rather than yourself. If you have decent energy management, you can easily run on 40 energy. I do like the cushion though, so my monk runs with 600 health and 50 energy.
However, I don't know what any warrior would be doing using a staff or focus, so that's a bit odd. I'm curious as to what mess of a build you need to run on a warrior that requires a staff or focus.
But anyway, getting to the point of this thread. I think it's a little unreasonable to want different staff/wand/focus skins for every caster profession, considering there's so many of them. I play casters exclusively, and it really doesn't bother me that the skin on my weapons comes in every caster attribute.
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May 21, 2008, 09:10 PM // 21:10
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Grotto Attendant
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Europe
Guild: The German Order [GER]
Profession: N/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tehshadowninjar
You suck then if you're going to sacrifice 10/12 energy for better looks and +6 armor >.> And along with your noob war using wand/offhand or staff, I'd hate to ever PvP/PvE with you.
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You are so bad at GWs, that i can't even laugh at you.
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Originally Posted by Xiooua
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It is not bad idea to prebuild adrenaline with wand/staff. Esp if you meet req because you run conjure bar.
Nor is it to have focus on swap to recasting conjures / emergency shock or bulls.
Key here is to swap.
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May 21, 2008, 09:11 PM // 21:11
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Alcoholic From Yale
Join Date: Jul 2007
Guild: Strong Foreign Policy [sFp]
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Use a hammer on your monk then.
Problem solved.
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May 21, 2008, 09:20 PM // 21:20
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#17
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Lion's Arch Merchant
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tehshadowninjar
You suck then if you're going to sacrifice 10/12 energy for better looks and +6 armor >.> And along with your noob war using wand/offhand or staff, I'd hate to ever PvP/PvE with you.
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please stop posting
most casters use swords/spears/axes and switch to 40/40 for important casts ,so what dose it matter if there arent that many foci/wand sets
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May 22, 2008, 12:03 AM // 00:03
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#18
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Australia
Guild: Oh No Tinkerbell Died
Profession: R/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tehshadowninjar
You suck then if you're going to sacrifice 10/12 energy for better looks and +6 armor >.> And along with your noob war using wand/offhand or staff, I'd hate to ever PvP/PvE with you.
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I'd love to see an AoM derv w/o a staff, woops DP'ed out, can't use AoM anymore sorry guys! >.<
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May 22, 2008, 12:07 AM // 00:07
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#19
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: ★☆٭Ńēŵ~ŶờЯК٭☆★
Guild: The Benecia Renovatio [RenO]
Profession: Mo/Me
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he wants swords to be monk req. how leet would that be.
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May 22, 2008, 12:09 AM // 00:09
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#20
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Feb 2008
Guild: AFO
Profession: E/
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Guys please if ya want to use a sword then use one? wanding = worthless it's not like the 20 damage ya do with that stick will kill someone
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